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3L - chyba převodovky

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Ahojte,
pokazila sa mi prevodovka, auto nevie zaradit spiatocku R. Po rozbehnuti radi rychlosti 1,2 a pri 3 stupni rychlost vyhodi a v tom momente nie je mozne pridat plyn a auto sa tvari akoby islo zotrvacnostou na neutrale N.
z poslednej diagnostiky mam chybu 263. Teraz toho bude asi viac tam.

Prosim o pomoc. Co stym mozem spravit? Cital som na fore o defaultnom nastaveni prevodovky http://www.vw-club.cz/viewtopic.php?f=210&t=127740" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ako sa uvedene nastavenia vykonavaju? resp. pomocou coho?
V kazdom servise chcu hned demontovat a rozoberat prevodovku a uctovat si obrovske prachy... pritom ide zrejme len o elektronicku zavadu :(
Mate stym niejake skusenosti? Ozvite sa a poradte prosim

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Re: VW Lupo 1.2 TDI chyba prevodovky

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Skus udělat základní nastavení převodovky pomoci VAG-u nebo něčeho podobneho. Návod je tady:

5-Speed Electronic Manual Transmission (085)
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1 Special Procedures
1.1 Clutch Travel Sender Adaptation
1.2 Gear Actuator Adaptation
1.3 Creep Point Adaptation

Special Procedures

Prerequisites:

Transmission Oil Level correct.
No Fault Codes stored.
Supply voltage at least 12V.
Selector Lever in Tiptronic Mode.


The following Basic Settings need to be carried out when:
Every 30000 km / 19000 mi
Engine has been removed/replaced
Transmission has been removed/replaced
Engine Control Module has been replaced
Transmission Control Module has been replaced
Clutch has been removed/adjusted/replaced
Gear Selector or Actuator has been removed/adjusted/replaced
Selector Lever has been removed/adjusted/replaced


Common issues:
The connection to the control module may be interrupted after starting the engine, as long as you do NOT switch of the ignition the cntrol module will continue at exactly the same position where the connection got interrupted. Step back into the basic setting as usual.


The following 3 Adaptations need to be carried out in a row!


Clutch Travel Sender Adaptation

[Select]
[02 - Transmission]
[Measuring Blocks - 08]
Block 002
[Go!]
Remove connector from hydraulic unit.
Check field 2, specification is 1.8...2.0 V.
If the specification is not reached, adjust the Clutch Travel Sender (G162).
Re-attach connector to hydraulic unit.
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]
Cycle ignition OFF/ON.
[Select]
[02 - Transmission]
[Fault Codes - 08]
[Clear Codes - 05]
[Done, Go Back]


Gear Actuator Adaptation

[Basic Setting - 04]
Block 014
[Go!]
1st field should change from WAIT to ADJUST.
Loosen the gear actuator nut and tighten it with zero-potential.
Switch selector lever in E or D and back to Tiptronic Mode.
1st field should show WAIT now, transmission now does some shifts, you can monitor them in field 2 (Range: 0...28).
1st field should change from WAIT to (-), pull the selector lever to Minus and hold it for 5 seconds.
1st field should show STOP now, put the selector lever in position STOP and wait 5 seconds.
1st field should show KickDown now, floor the accelerator pedal completely (to kick down) and wait 5 seconds.
1st field should show N now, put the selector lever in position N.
1st field should show StartMot now, start the engine and let it idle 15 seconds.
1st field should change from SEARCHNG to IGN.OFF, put the selector lever in Position STOP.
Switch ignition off and wait 15 seconds.

In case there is an Error during the Basic Setting, the Measuring Value Blocks (MVB) will show RTFM! followed by a Number which describes the Reason why it failed.

7 = Potentiometer 2 for Gear Recognition (G240)
Check Switches and Wiring/Connectors using Measuring Value Blocks (MVB) and Wiring Diagram.
8 = Potentiometer 1 for Gear Recognition (G239)
Check Switches and Wiring/Connectors using Measuring Value Blocks (MVB) and Wiring Diagram.
9 = Reverse Light Switch (F4)
Check Switches and Wiring/Connectors using Measuring Value Blocks (MVB) and Wiring Diagram.
10 = Potentiometer Values fluctuating during Measurement
Check the corresponding Potentiometers in Measuring Value Blocks (MVB) 015 to 018
Check Fault Codes (repair if necessary) and Perform Basic Setting again
11 = Potentiometer Values
Check the corresponding Potentiometers in Measuring Value Blocks (MVB) 015 to 018
Check Fault Codes (repair if necessary) and Perform Basic Setting again
12 = Gear Actuator incorrectly adjusted or measured values out of specification.
Potentiometer, Valves and Selector Finger at the Ball Heads for correct assembly and seating
Perform Basic Setting again after adjusting the Gear Actuator


Creep Point Adaptation

[Select]
[02 - Transmission]
[Measuring Blocks - 08]
Block 025
[Go!]
Start the engine, engage the handbrake and press the foot brake.
Put the selector lever in position E or D.
You can determine the number of creep points left in field 3. It should start at 5 and count down to 0.
Release the brake pedal for at least 3 seconds, press the brake pedal again and hold it for at least 3 seconds.
Repeat the last step until field 3 shows 0.
If the specified value in field 3 is not reached, check fault codes and perform basic setting again.
[Done, Go Back]
[Close Controller, Go Back - 06]
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Jestli ano po tomhle to nebude fungovat tak nejake čidlo bude vadne. Ohlas se jestli to nepojede po zakladnim nastaveni.
Jestli nemaš, kdo by ti to udělal, tak to přivez, dame to do kupy:-) Jsem z Třince.

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Re: VW Lupo 1.2 TDI chyba prevodovky

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Zdravim Vas,

ja som tu novacik a budem rad ak poradite alebo pomozete. ako tu citam vela ludi mali podobny problem s prevodovkou. Ja by som skor nechcel narazit na servis ktory bude len tahat prachy z cloveka ale lepsie riesenie s niekym kto sa v tom vyzna dat to spolu dokopy a samozrejme aj zaplatim v ramci priatelskych cien :)

moj problem spociva taktiez v prevodovke, za jazdy ci je to automat alebo manualny riezim ide 1,2,3 a na 4 rychlosti asi vypadne rychlost a zhasne motor, pomoze zasa nastartovat a ist dalej ale max do trojky. zaujimave to ze obcas zaradi 4 aj 5 rychlosti bez problemov. Takze nerobi to vzdy ale skor furt. To hydraulicke cerpadlo neviem ci funguje spravne ale je okolo toho malinko mastne teda olej ale v ramci normy na moj pohlad. Nie som nejaky odbornik, a neviem to urobit sam, videl som ze nastavujete prevodovky cez nejake zakladne nastavenia a skusam hladat suvis s dalsim problemom ci to nejak na seba nenadvazuje, mne totizto eko riezim aj ked zapnem akoze nefunguje, nedrzi motor v nizkych otackach a nefunguje start&stop system ked stlacim brzdu. Mozno treba len nastavit tu prevodovku, beriem to optimisticky ze oprava nebude draha :), ale skor do placu ked take sikovne auticko trapi sa a nevie ktoru rychlos po trojke ma dat, nerozhodne a proste vypne sa aby sam sebe neublizil.

chlapi, pomozete s tymto? ja som s okolia Senca.

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Re: VW Lupo 1.2 TDI chyba prevodovky

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Kousek od Piešťan bydli kamoš, ktery by ti to nastavil. To maš nějakych 60-70 km asi. Napis mu zpravu tady na forum, ma nick misoVW.

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Re: VW Lupo 1.2 TDI chyba prevodovky

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Diky moc, snad mi misoVW pomoze.

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